Chloe’s World

 

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The Property Management Company where I live, has now said, “The expenses” I have incurred over the past year for my service animal are not included in their calculation of my rent.  Needless to say, I was speechless. I new I needed help fast. I contacted my dear friend Patti Doyle. She lives here also and is waging her own battle with terminal cancer and her civil rights.  I called Legal Aid Society.  I spoke to a fair housing expert and she is guiding me through the process. Here  are the Hud.gov guidelines.

MEDICAL ISSUES:

Question 1: What is considered an “assistance animal?” If someone brings a prescription for an animal to lower blood pressure, or for depression or emotional well-being, do we then consider this an assistance animal? Do we then allow for vet bills on those animals in an elderly/disabled household?
Answer 1: An assistance animal is one that works, provides assistance, or performs tasks for the benefit of a person with a disability. Page 4 of the Glossary in the handbook gives a full definition of an Assistance Animal. Part of which is “providing emotional support to persons with disabilities who have a disability related need for such support.” See paragraph 2-44 and 3-38 for additional information on determining if a resident meets the definition of a person with a disability that makes them eligible for an assistance animal as a reasonable accommodation and how to verify the need for an assistance animal.

The need for an assistance animal has to be directly related to a disability, and the services performed by the animal must alleviate one or more identified symptom of that person’s disability.

Veterinary bills as well as other expenses related to the upkeep of the assistance animal are allowed medical expense for a qualified assistance animal.

Question 2: Are companion animals’ expenses medical deductions just like assistance animals?
Answer 2: Yes, if the animal you refer to as a companion animal meets the definition of an assistance animal and the requirements of Paragraphs 2-44 and 3-38 in HUD Handbook 4350.3 REV-1 are followed.
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12 Responses to “Chloe’s World”

  1. faceyourfears4 Says:

    Why are we the, “forgotten” ones? Why, just because we are sick or disabled not important in this world? None of us asked to get sick, lose our ability to make a livable wage and be judged and discarded. Do you think living in HUD housing is a blessing? Try it.
    You are treated with disdain and contempt. You have no privacy or dignity. The rules are endless and arbitrary. All you ask for is a little peace and some humanity. But, its an endless fight for your civil rights, no one wants to take on. We are warriors too. We just have a different coat of armor. Think about that.. It could happen to you or a loved one. Please help US make a change for the better for All.

    • hiddendisabilities Says:

      Thank you faceyourfears4, Your responding comments are welcome and wise, woof!

      • hiddendisabilities Says:

        It is said that many people living in HUD are judged and discarded. Many management companies try to cut corners at the tenants expense. The HUD tenant is on a fixed income and needs to save every penny they have to live a enjoyable life.

      • Patricia K Doyle Says:

        I have lived this truth. If you are from another country you WILL be treated better and receive monies, health care and housing without any struggle. If I were to go to “another country” I would Not be treated or cared for like we do here in the USA. SO SAD, SO TRUE. I see and live this everyday. I hope before I die, someone takes up this fight with our government and puts the money to use for Americans born in this country that have fought for our freedoms and have worked for their living. How many non-americans do you see sleeping on the street? They get HUD housing.

  2. Kimberly Ryan Says:

    Said so eloquently and so true.

  3. hiddendisabilities Says:

    Reblogged this on Hiddendisabilities's Blog and commented:

    I feel sick to my stomach because I stood up for those of us living with service dogs (SD) in a HUD building requesting our SD deductions. The management company doesn’t like that I sought out legal help, so now I will be bullied and picked on.
    ME, a neighbor left a bag at my door on the railing and the manger knocked on my door pointing at it requesting what it was. How come everyone else can leave things and not have anything said to them?
    Tenants can have cases of water delivered and sitting in the hallways, newspapers lying on the floor waiting to be taken in. Tenants leave their walkers in hallways and no one says a word. A tenant left dog mess on the main sidewalk to the handicap door and nothing said.

  4. Richard Oddy Says:

    I am a true 100% disabled Vietnam veteran warrior, live in a Hud Apt bldg I have a fully registered and licensed service dog.

    But I am solely responsible for all of his vet bills, grooming, and supplies. Now if i personally need something medically for myself like the Life Alert i pay for well Hud does reimburse me for that.

    I read the Hud rules and terms of agreement they are not responsible for our pets even if they are classed and traind service animals.

    • hiddendisabilities Says:

      My mission is to help educate those with disabilities and service animals. If a person is disabled and lives in HUD Housing under HUD.gov Exhibit 5-3 Medical Expenses that are deductible and non deductible. Attendant care or periodic medical care = …….assistance animals and its upkeep.
      Every year a person in HUD Housing goes through a recertification process. The goal is added up all out of pocket medical expenses and etc….. and service animal expenses, there is a 3% deduction included before determining a persons rent.

  5. Kara Says:

    You need to call your property’s Project Manager at HUD. Most likely your project is governed by HUD Handbook 4350.3. In general Legal Aid knows very little about project specific issues, but the PM will. Legal Aid will know that they must allow an assistive animal, but they may not be familiar with the deduction for the associated cost of the animal.

    And I you are not comfortable with that answer, talk to your PM’s supervisor.

    • hiddendisabilities Says:

      Thank Kara for replying. Thank goodness all worked out. I pointed out the HUD rules and the manager agreed with them too. It was the property manager company. Their compliance coordinator didn’t know the rules…..?????? The service deductions are in HUD Handbook and the Property management company is complying with them.

      Legal aid in San Diego is aware of the HUD rules and contacted with the management company and they did comply.

  6. Brenda Says:

    Hello, after I got my second service dog they I think accidently gave me a paper about assistance animals stating I can deduct vet bills, grooming and dog food. I have lived here 8 years. when I questioned this at recert . They said it was not retractive. They are commiting fraud and taking advatage of a disabled person. I can deduct it and I need to know if I can go after them for the past 8 years? PLEASE help. Thank you

    • hiddendisabilities Says:

      Hi Brenda do you have a legal aid where live? If so they will help you get what you. It is illegal if you live in HUD housing or Section 8 for the management company not to use your service dogs needs as a deduction. Scroll down about 15 sentences and you will see the HUD guidelines for service animals. Do you need me to call them for you? I could call you first if you would like. I run “The Hayliegh Project” Helping people with Hidden Disabilities and civil rights.

      Kimberly and Chloe

      Exhibit 5-3: **Examples of**
      Medical Expenses That Are Deductible and Nondeductible
      The following are examples of eligible items for medical expense deductions. Please note that this list is not exhaustive.
      Type of Medical Expenses May Include*
      Services of recognized health care professionals Services of physicians, nurses, dentists, opticians, mental health practitioners, osteopaths, chiropractors, Christian Science practitioners. and acupuncture practitioners
      Services of health care facilities; laboratory fees, X-rays and diagnostic tests, blood; oxygen Hospitals, health maintenance organizations (HMOs), laser eye surgery, out-patient medical facilities, and clinics
      Alcoholism and drug addiction treatment
      Medical insurance premiums Expenses paid to an HMO; Medicaid insurance payments that have not been reimbursed: long-term care premiums (not prorated)
      Prescription and nonprescription medicines Aspirin, antihistamine only if prescribed by a physician for a particular medical condition
      Transportation to/from treatment and lodging Actual cost (e.g., bus fare) or, if driving in a car, a mileage rate based on IRS rules or other accepted standard
      Medical care of permanently
      institutionalized family member IF his/her income is included in Annual Income
      Dental treatment Fees paid to the dentist; x-rays; fillings, braces, extractions, dentures
      Eyeglasses. contact lenses
      Hearing aid and batteries; wheelchair. walker, artificial limbs, Braille books and magazines, oxygen and oxygen equipment Purchase and upkeep (e.g.. additional utility costs to tenant because of oxygen machine [in properties with tenant paid utilities only])
      Attendant care or periodic medical care Nursing services, assistance animal and its upkeep
      Payments on accumulated medical bills Scheduled payments
      Or any other medically necessary service, apparatus, or medication, as documented oy tniro-party veriricauori.

      4350.3 REV-1
      Some items that may not be included in medical expense deductions are listed below.

      Medical Expenses May Not Include
      Cosmetic surgery Do not include in medical expenses amounts paid for unnecessary cosmetic surgery. This applies to any procedure that is directed at improving the patient’s appearance and does not meaningfully promote the proper function of the body or prevent or treat illness or disease. Procedures such as face-lifts, hair transplants, hair removal (electrolysis), and liposuction generally are not deductible. **However, if medical complications, e.g., infections, etc., occur as a result of the procedure that requires medical treatment, the medical treatment expenses would be treated as a medical expense deduction.**
      Amounts paid for cosmetic surgery may be deducted if necessary to improve a deformity arising from, or directly related to, a congenital abnormality, a personal injury resulting from an accident or trauma, or a disfiguring disease.
      Health club dues Do not include in medical expenses the cost of membership in any club organized for business, pleasure, recreation, or other social purpose, such as health club dues, YMCA dues, or amounts paid for steam baths for general health or to relieve physical or mental discomfort not related to a particular medical condition.
      Household help Do not include in medical expenses the cost of household help, even if such help is recommended by a doctor. However, certain expenses paid to a person providing nursing-type services may be deductible as medical costs. Also, certain maintenance or personal care services provided for qualified long-term care can be included in medical expenses.
      Medical savings account (MSA) Do not deduct as a qualified medical expense amounts contributed to an Archer MSA. **
      Nutritional supplements, **vitamins,
      herbal supplements, “natural medicines” ** Do not include in medical expenses the cost of nutritional supplements, vitamins, herbal supplements, “natural medicines,” etc., **unless they are recommended in writing by a medical practitioner licensed in the locality where practicing. These items must be recommended as treatment for a specific medical condition diagnosed by a physician or other health care provider licensed to make a diagnosis in the locality where practicing. Otherwise, these items are taken to maintain ordinary good health, and are

      4350.3 REV-1

      not for medical care. **
      Medical Expenses May Not Include
      Personal use items Do not include in medical expenses an item ordinarily used for personal, living, or family purposes unless it is used primarily to prevent or alleviate a physical or mental defect or illness. For example, the cost of a wig purchased upon the advice of a physician for the mental health of a patient who has lost all of his or her hair from disease **or incontinence supplies** can be included with medical expenses
      Nonprescription medicines **Do not include in medical expenses nonprescription medicines unless they are recommended in writing by a medical practitioner licensed in the locality where practicing. These items must be recommended as treatment for a specific medical condition diagnosed by a physician or other health care provider licensed to make a diagnosis in the locality where practicing. **

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